Tampa Trip in the Books

came back yesterday

checked into Residence Inn Tampa Wesley Chapel on Friday

and checked out on Tuesday

it was 90-94 degrees the entire time except as i was driving to Airport on Tuesday there was a rain shower and temps abruptly dropped from 90 to 75 … but i only got to enjoy the 75F weather for like 10 minutes while returning my rental Toyota Camry …

what can i say … Tampa is a fucking dump … a fucking shithole … but the last house i looked at there on Monday was actually pretty sweet whereas every house i saw in NH was a dump except the ones that had already received multiple offers by the time i even got to see them …

so my choice is shit house with great demographics in NH or great house with shit demographics in Tampa …

i’m leaning towards Tampa because in NH you don’t just get shit house but also shit weather …

95F in Tampa in August was no fun, but people were enjoying the ( hotel ) pool, they were enjoying the ( Clearwater ) beach, and it was fairly comfortable ( though still hot ) at night and also after that rain shower …

so that means that even in August in Tampa the weather is only unbearable MOST of the time, but you can still enjoy the outdoors in the water, at night or after a rain …

by comparison i don’t think there is any way to enjoy the outdoors in Boston from about December to March … as it only gets worse at night, worse after snowing and you can forget about any kind of outdoor water activities for about 10 months out of the year …

A lot of people are moving to Tampa its becoming quite popular - forget the weather factor, you get used to it. How about something smaller w better demographics - St Petersburg FL etc? West coast essentially but smaller towns.

OK by “Tampa” i meant Tampa Bay Area not actual Tampa.

I did drive around actual Tampa as well as St Petersburg and yes St Petersburg is way nicer.

Tampa apparently used to be called the armpit of Florida and the downtown does have that vibe - everything is just off. it was about 90-95 degrees and half the women in downtown were dressed like this:

and the other half like this:

no in-between. it’s either " fuck it’s hot i’m taking all my clothes off " or " i am a successful businesswoman and will act like this is Manhattan and not Tampa "

so basically Downtown Tampa feels like a failed wannabe Manhattan but with only 5% as many people on the street ( about 2 or 3 people per block, versus about 50 per block in Manhattan ) with homeless wearing nothing but shorts and having completely taken over the bus stops which apparently nobody uses … and with regular women walking between high-rises wearing almost nothing, not to try to be sexy but simply to avoid dying from heat stroke - short shorts and a small top - just enough to cover up ass and tits and with basically nothing on either legs or upper back.

by contrast St. Petersburg had an upscale resort vibe - no business suits and no homeless - just well ( casually ) dressed white people, yachts and an occasional Lambo SUV.

but both of those areas were very small compared to overall Tampa Bay size … like you can drive across downtown Tampa or downtown St. Pete in about 5 minutes.

and even the Tampa Bay itself feels compact compared to other metro areas such as Boston, DC and NYC.

i drove across the entire metro area and back in like 2 hours, whereas it would probably take like 3 or 4 hours in DC and Boston and half a day in NYC.

i actually like that - because i have been living in NJ for like 5 years and i only been to Manhattan a few times because it’s such a hassle getting there with the distance and traffic and no parking …

in DC and Boston it is also somewhat tiring driving from the suburbs to the center and it’s something you dread and hope you will never need to do …

but Tampa is smaller …

NYC population - 20 million, Boston and DC - 6 million, Tampa - 3 million. This smaller size makes it more manageable where driving to downtown from the suburb doesn’t feel like a road trip but rather like commuting.

taking the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan felt like that - manageable - but of course that required living in a Brooklyn Apartment and riding on the train with Niggers.

in Tampa you can live in a nice suburban area and comfortably drive to downtown and back. people say Tampa sucks because there is no subway … true, but in both NYC, DC and Boston to even get TO the subway from the suburbs is as long or longer a drive as it is in Tampa to drive straight to downtown …

these subway systems that NYC, DC and Boston have and Tampa does not have are both a blessing and a curse.

it’s a blessing because it allows young people to live in the city in a small apartment without having to own a car. with young people come universities, jobs, clubs etc. and it’s what ultimately makes a world class city.

it’s a curse because once you have a subway system, or any effective mass transit, architecture begins to develop vertically - land in downtown starts to get extremely expensive and it begins to push car infrastructure out because it takes up too much of that expensive space …

eventually you reach a point where you can’t just drive to work - you have to drive to a light rail station or a commuter bus station, then transfer to the subway, then to another subway and then walk … which is all well and good if the weather is nice and you can find a seat and / or you don’t have any foot pain etc - but this has the potential to become torture otherwise.

whereas in a smaller, less dense area like Tampa bay you just drive straight to where you want to go.

Urbanists like to say that mass transit gives people options … and i’m sorry to admit i actually fell for that myself … intuitively and in theory that seems to be what it does …

but in reality Mass Transit always ends up killing off the viability of transportation by car because Mass Transit always increases density to the point where cars can no longer function …

for example the image below was posted on a subreddit r/SuburbanHell

this is what Tampa Bay area intersections in the newer suburban neighborhoods like Wesley Chapel and Land O’ Lakes really look like … it is kind of shocking at first … especially if you are the kind of idiot who thinks Old European City Streets are the way to go:

Urbanists consider Tampa-Style roads Hell because they are roads that are actually designed for cars. You certainly don’t see this stuff in NYC or Boston or any other old cities let alone European Cities …

reality is that Mass Transit exists in cities that aren’t fit for cars so in practice it doesn’t offer an alternative to cars but rather is a MANDATORY replacement for cars in places like NYC and Boston …

Redditors love that shit because they are all commies and all conservatives are banned from Reddit … or at least all conservative subreddits have been banned …

r/FuckCars whined to me on Twitter why i banned his goons from my site claiming that he himself doesn’t practice censorship … maybe he personally does not, but he runs a subreddit and Reddit DOES censor by closing down all conservative subreddits and only leaving ones like r/FuckCars and r/SuburbanHell etc …

that is to say there is no reddit dedicated to mocking Urbanists and Cyclists and if there was it would be banned. thankfully Twitter still allows Anti-Urbanist accounts and i follow most of them.