makes you wonder why everybody is promoting No Fap
stay aroused all the time - stay retarded
also makes you wonder how i can be so much smarter than everybody else
fapping all the time
it’s a vicious circle you know - No Fap turns you into a retard, which in turns makes you follow grifters that tell you not to Fap …
sad
PS: apologies for the inter-racial graphic …
In my opinion, this issue was decisively wrapped up by Tyson Fury. He admitted to a rigorous fap routine along with his other training in the time just before he defeated Deontay Wilder. You said at the time this was a vindication of YesFap. I certainly would rather take the advice of champions than… well, the kind of people promoting NoFap.
i remember that story LOL.
but in all honesty i think the NoFap / YesFap issue is more nuanced …
you know how with drugs you have uppers and downers - same here …
you wouldn’t want to take an upper before bed or a downer before doing hard work …
the only time you’re really guaranteed success swatting flies is when they’re fucking - because just like us their brain locks up when they’re about to come. so clearly this is a state of mind that is dangerous.
on other hand immediately after an orgasm you’re in a state of zero motivation, which is obviously less dangerous than zero awareness / zero cognitive capacity in the short term - but will still kill you if it lasts indefinitely.
of course you would need to be a heroin / fentanyl junkie to make this state last long enough to really take toll on you in terms of forgetting to eat and stuff like that but it could certainly lower your motivation enough that you might choose to go to sleep instead of going to gym for example …
NoFap is essentially an upper while YesFap a downer …
as you’re approaching orgasm your motivation keeps going up until your brain freezes, then following orgasm it crashes all the way to zero and eventually comes back to normal …
to me it isn’t about NoFap or YesFap but about understanding that curve and using it to optimize your day …
think of anything important you will have to do in the day and make sure you fit the curve properly to that activity …
separately we have to consider long term effects of fapping or not fapping on your social life
i am the extreme case of constant fapping
the opposite would be something like a practicing Muslim
here both have downsides as well
the downside of my lifestyle is that i will never get a GF let alone get married - those things aren’t worth it to me. if i was rich i would fuck escorts but i’m not so i fap to porn. a relationship with a woman makes no sense to me because i do not enjoy anything that women enjoy such as vacations, shopping, dining out, clubbing and on and on. i only enjoy physical contact with women. doesn’t have to be intercourse but it has to be physical contact or some kind. at the bare minimum i would have to be holding a woman’s hand in order for me to find our time together enjoyable, because at least it is suggestive of intimacy.
but the prospect of living together doesn’t appeal to me. i found it oppressive in practice. i prefer to live alone.
the downside of being a Muslim is the second they see a girl without a Burka they rape her and then they stone her to death for being a whore. whereas i can be surrounded by half-naked Instagram Thots at the gym and be fine because i jerked off twice before going to the gym.
and finally because women are turned on by status any man that chooses a life of NoFap and has to secure sex from actual women will be forced to dedicate his entire life to increasing his status no matter the cost …
because he will be competing for women against other men and the women will go to the man with the highest status …
one man with a yacht will get 10 instagram models while while a man who lives in a basement and doesn’t have a car will get NOTHING.
if those are your options and you can’t fap you will do ANYTHING to be the man with the yacht even if it means selling drugs and gunning down your rivals.
but what if you can nut to Porn anytime you want ? suddenly that Basement life doesn’t sound so bad anymore …
which is why all these SelfHelp gurus preach NoFap because obviously a person who faps will never have that Yacht …
Here is the problem though - the reason he won’t have that Yacht is because he doesn’t need one.
And the person who needs the Yacht because he doesn’t fap will probably get shot in the face trying to get it. The whole “get rich or die trying” deal.
But instead of discussing the complexity of this issue all these influencers and gurus simply issue the blanket " Do Not Fap " edict.
It has simply become the dog whistle of the " Trad " movement.
When you say " do not fap " you’re really saying " march the Kikes into the ocean " because, after all, pornography is the Jewish poison destroying humanity.
well i have no problem with saying that pornography is a Jewish weapon of mass social destruction because that is undisputable.
but what is best for society and what is best for the individual isn’t the same, and in fact usually the opposite.
the biggest scam in the Trad community is pointing out that Jews are destroying society, making you hate the Jews, and then using that hatred of the Jews to argue for anti-Jewish behavior such as No-Fap …
the problem is that your No-Fap behavior may own the Jews and save society but it will also likely destroy you personally in the process …
the needs of individual and society are fundamentally at odds …
when i fap the biggest loser isn’t me - it’s the woman i will never marry and the children i will never have
i only gain from my fapping and others ( women, society, self-help gurus, etc. ) only lose from my fapping, which is why they tell me not to fap - but i don’t give a fuck what they tell me because i can think for myself 
oh oh …
sounds like NoFap to me 
https://twitter.com/GreeneBot/status/1623411870412468224?s=20&t=NnGB0QIHxJhqx2c_oEI3aw
Well I guess NoFap is mostly geared towards incels and teenagers who are socially ill equipped due to technology so they just stay at home and jerk off never growing up to do anything, only subsisting on cheap dopamine hits be it social media or porn etc
an extrovert like you lives to be admired by others and certainly jerking off to porn all day and doing nothing else will not make people admire you so for people like you there is NoFap and Dopamine Fasting which cuts you off from “cheap” pleasure forcing you to work harder to obtain “real” pleasure ( admiration of women and peers ).
for an introvert like me the pleasures of fapping and trolling are more real than the pleasure of socializing or being admired. i don’t want to be admired i just want people to stop judging me but no amount of achievement will do that. look at Elon Musk - the most successful person in the world - also the most judged.
i remember you once told me “nobody has ever built a monument to a critic” … which is true. but also not everybody wants to have monuments built to honor them.
your need to judge others is your need to feel better about yourself.
well we all judge thats inherent in all of us but I see your point. But dont you think its interesting that even during biblical times, masturbation was forbidden and mentioned in religious texts as something not to do ? I mean you literally have people a stone throw away from full blown cavemen and yet they are concerning about that issue so I think there is something to it… Also thats why priests and monks stayed celiibate to cultivate that energy at least in theory in the beginning … (not talking about catholic priests of today fucking children)
